Now, I've never done them myself, but I have talked to many, many people who've had experience with psychedelics. President and CEO, First Southeast Financial Corp and First Federal Savings and Loan Director, Carolina First Bank and The South Financial Group Then I'll ask a series of questions that follow the course of his book, focusing on the different ancient religious traditions, the evidence for their psychedelic sacraments, and most importantly, whether and how the assembled evidence yields a coherent picture of the past. The big question is, did any of these recipes, did any of this wine spiking actually make its way into some paleo-Christian ceremony. Part 1 Brian C. Muraresku: The Eleusinian Mysteries, Discovering the Divine, The Immortality Key, The Pagan Continuity Hypothesis and the Hallucinogenic Origins of Religion - Feb 22, 2023 And if you're a good Christian or a good Catholic, and you're consuming that wine on any given Sunday, why are you doing that? The Tim Ferriss Show Transcripts: Brian C. Muraresku with Dr. Mark Plotkin The Eleusinian Mysteries, Discovering the Divine, The Immortality Key, The Pagan Continuity Hypothesis, Lessons from Scholar Karen Armstrong, and Much More (#646) - The Blog of Author Tim Ferriss 3 Annual "Best of" Apple Podcasts 900+ Million episodes downloaded They followed Platonic (and other Greeks) philosophy. The fact that the Vatican sits in Rome today is not an accident, I think, is the shortest way to answer that. And shouldn't we all be asking that question? So Pompeii and its environs at the time were called [SPEAKING GREEK], which means great Greece. And I'll just list them out quickly. And so I don't think that psychedelics are coming to replace the Sunday Eucharist. And so how far should this investigation go?
All episodes of The Tim Ferriss Show - Chartable To some degree, I think you're looking back to southern Italy from the perspective of the supremacy of Rome, which is not the case in the first century. It would have parts of Greek mysticism in it, the same Greek mysteries I've spent all these years investigating, and it would have some elements of what I see in paleo-Christianity. So the big question is, what kind of drug was this, if it was a drug?
"The Tim Ferriss Show" 646: Brian C. Muraresku with Dr. Mark Plotkin And at the same time, when I see a thirst, especially in young people, for real experience, and I see so many Catholics who do not believe in transubstantiation, obviously, what comes to my mind is how, if at all, can psychedelics enhance faith or reinvent Christianity. These sources suggest a much greater degree of continuity with pre-Christian values and practice than the writings of more .
The Immortality Key - David Bookstaber Maybe there's some residual fear that's been built up in me. BRIAN MURARESKU: That's a good question.
The Psychedelic Gospels: The Secret History of Hallucinogens in And even Burkert, I think, calls it the most famous of the mystery rituals.
#646: Brian C. Muraresku with Dr. Mark Plotkin The - Chartable It's really quite simple, Charlie. There he is. Despite its popular appeal as a New York Times Bestseller, TIK fails to make a compelling case for its grand theory of the "pagan continuity hypothesis with a psychedelic twist" due to recurring overreach and historical distortion, failure to consider relevant research on shamanism and Christianity, and presentation of speculation as fact." OK, now, Brian, you've probably dealt with questions like this. Something else I include at the end of my book is that I don't think that whatever this was, this big if about a psychedelic Eucharist, I don't think this was a majority of the paleo-Christians. It pushes back the archaeology on some of this material a full 12,000 years. Those of you who don't know his name, he's a professor at the University of Amsterdam, an expert in Western esotericism. These mysteries had at their center a sacrament called kykeon, which offered a vision of the mysteries of life and death. But let me say at the outset that it is remarkably learned, full of great historical and philological detail. [2] I also sense another narrative in your book, and one you've flagged for us, maybe about 10 minutes ago, when you said that the book is a proof of concept. Wise not least because it is summer there, as he reminds me every time we have a Zoom meeting, which has been quite often in these past several months. And I describe that as somehow finding that key to immortality. He co-writes that with Gordon Wasson and Albert Hofmann, who famously-- there it is, the three authors. Several theories address the issue of the origin of the Romanians.The Romanian language descends from the Vulgar Latin dialects spoken in the Roman provinces north of the "Jireek Line" (a proposed notional line separating the predominantly Latin-speaking territories from the Greek-speaking lands in Southeastern Europe) in Late Antiquity.The theory of Daco-Roman continuity argues that the . And I think it's very important to be very honest with the reader and the audience about what we know and what we don't. You become one with Christ by drinking that. I know that that's a loaded phrase. But please do know that we will forward all these questions to Brian so he will know the sorts of questions his work prompts. And I think what the pharmaceutical industry can do is help to distribute this medicine. You can see that inscribed on a plaque in Saint Paul's monastery at Mount Athos in Greece. CHARLES STANG: Thank you, Brian.
Was Moses high? Studies linking religion and drugs gain traction Tim Ferriss is a self-experimenter and bestselling author, best known for The 4-Hour Workweek, which has been translated into 40+ languages. Psychedelics are a lens to investigate this stuff. I just sense a great deal of structure and thoughtfulness going into this experience. So why refrain? Again, if you're attracted to psychedelics, it's kind of an extreme thing, right? In this episode, Brian C. Muraresku, who holds a degree from Brown University in Latin, Greek and Sanskrit, joins Breht to discuss his fascinating book "The Immortality Key: The Secret History of the Religion with No Name", a groundbreaking dive into the use of hallucinogens in ancient Greece, the Pagan Continuity Hypothesis, the role of the Eucharist in early Christianity, the . And I don't know if there's other examples of such things. On Monday, February 22, we will be hosting a panel discussion taking up the question what is psychedelic chaplaincy. So I don't write this to antagonize them or the church, the people who, again, ushered me into this discipline and into these questions. It's arguably not the case in the third century. So if Eleusis is the Fight Club of the ancient world, right, the first rule is you don't talk about it. This two-part discussion between Muraresku and Dr. Plotkin examines the role psychedelics have played in the development of Western civilization. Now, you could draw the obvious conclusion. Thank you. But maybe you could just say something about this community in Catalonia. They found a tiny chalice this big, dated to the second century BC. But when it comes to that Sunday ritual, it just, whatever is happening today, it seems different from what may have motivated the earliest Christians, which leads me to very big questions. Find ratings and reviews for the newest movie and TV shows. It's not just Cana. CHARLES STANG: Well, Mr, Muraresku, you are hedging your bets here in a way that you do not necessarily hedge your bets in the book. Joe Campbell puts it best that what we're after is an experience of being alive. Brought to you by Wealthfront high-yield savings account, Peloton Row premium rower for an efficient workout, and You Need A Budget cult-favorite money management app.. Rick Rubin is a nine-time GRAMMY-winning producer, one of Time magazine's 100 most influential people in the world, and the most successful producer in any genre, according to Rolling Stone. I write it cognizant of the fact that the Eucharist doesn't work for many, many people. I'm sure he knows this well, by this point. Brought to you by That's our next event, and will be at least two more events to follow. And for some reason, I mean, I'd read that two or three times as an undergrad and just glossed over that line. And very famous passages, by the way, that should be familiar to most New Testament readers. And so I don't know what a really authentic, a really historic-looking ritual that is equal parts sacred, but also, again, medically sound, scientifically rigorous, would look like.
Pagan Continuity and Christian Attitudes: When did Paganism End? Copyright 2023 The President and Fellows of Harvard College, The Immortality Key: The Secret History of the Religion with No Name. It's only in John that Jesus is described as being born in the lap of the Father, the [SPEAKING GREEK] in 1:18, very similar to the way that Dionysus sprung miraculously from the thigh of Zeus, and on and on and on-- which I'm not going to bore you and the audience. And I started reading the studies from Pat McGovern at the University of Pennsylvania. There are others claiming that there's drugs everywhere. So somewhere between 1% and 49%. So that's something else to look into. Tim Ferriss is a self-experimenter and bestselling author, best known for The 4-Hour Workweek, which has been translated into 40+ languages. And so that opened a question for me. Now, I think you answered that last part. But the next event in this series will happen sooner than that.
The Immortality Key - Book Review and Discussion - Were early - Reddit CHARLES STANG: All right. And we know the mysteries were there. 101. He's been featured in Forbes, the Daily Beast, Big Think, and Vice. Copyright 2023 President and Fellows of Harvard College. And he found some beer and wine-- that was a bit surprising.
Two Reviews of The Immortality Key - Graham Hancock But Egypt seems to not really be hugely relevant to the research. And I don't know what that looks like. 8 "The winds, the sea . And that's where oversight comes in handy. Interesting. As much as we know about the mysteries of Eleusis. So let's talk about the future of religion, and specifically the future of Roman Catholicism. A combination of psychoactive plants, including opium, cannabis, and nightshade, along with the remains of reptiles and amphibians all steeped in wine, like a real witch's brew, uncovered in this house outside of Pompeii. Despite its popular appeal as a New York Times Bestseller, TIK fails to make a compelling case for its grand theory of the "pagan continuity hypothesis with a psychedelic twist" due to recurring overreach and historical distortion, failure to consider relevant research on shamanism and Christianity, and presentation of speculation as fact Again, it's proof of concept for going back to Eleusis and going back to other sites around the Mediterranean and continuing to test, whether for ergotized beer or other things. So can you reflect on the-- standing on the threshold of pharmaceutical companies taking control of this, how is that to be commended when the very people who have kept this alive would be pushed to the side in that move?
The Immortality Key: The Secret History of the Religion with No Name If you are drawn to psychedelics, in my mind, it means you're probably drawn to contemplative mysticism. And her best guess is that it was like this open access sanctuary. All he says is that these women and Marcus are adding drugs seven times in a row into whatever potion this is they're mixing up. They minimized or completely removed the Jewish debates found in the New Testament, and they took on a style that was more palatable to the wider pagan world. CHARLES STANG: We're often in this situation where we're trying to extrapolate from evidence from Egypt, to see is Egypt the norm or is it the exception? In May of last year, researchers published what they believe is the first archaeochemical data for the use of psychoactive drugs in some form of early Judaism. Because ergot is just very common. And maybe therein we do since the intimation of immortality. Well, wonderful. Let's move to early Christian. That's staying within the field of time.
The Immortality Key: The Secret History of the Religion with No Name He's the god of wine. At Cambridge University he worked in developmental biolo. So the mysteries of Dionysus are a bit more of a free-for-all than the mysteries of Eleusis.
The same Rome that circumstantially shows up, and south of Rome, where Constantine would build his basilicas in Naples and Capua later on. Mark and Brian cover the Eleusinian Mysteries, the pagan continuity hypothesis, early Christianity, lessons from famed religious scholar Karen Armstrong, overlooked aspects of influential philosopher William James's career, ancient wine and ancient beer, experiencing the divine within us, the importance of "tikkun olam"repairing and . He decides to get people even more drunk. So back in 2012, archaeologists and chemists were scraping some of these giant limestone troughs, and out pops calcium oxalate, which is one of these biomarkers for the fermentation of brewing. And so that's what motivated my search here. And what it has to do with Eleusis or the Greek presence in general, I mean, again, just to say it briefly, is that this was a farmhouse of sorts that was inland, this sanctuary site. 8th century BC from the Tel Arad shrine. BRIAN MURARESKU: Right. The phrasing used in the book and by others is "the pagan continuity hypothesis". It is my great pleasure to welcome Brian Muraresku to the Center. Psychedelics Today: PTSF 35 (with Brian Muraresku) Griffithsfund.org So even from the very beginning, it wasn't just barley and water. Like in Israel. So it is already happening. I know that's another loaded phrase. But with what were they mixed, and to what effect? He was wronged by individuals, allegedly. That they were what you call extreme beverages. In this hypothesis, both widely accepted and widely criticized,11 'American' was synonymous with 'North American'. But curiously, it's evidence for a eye ointment which is supposed to induce visions and was used as part of a liturgy in the cult of Mithras.
"Pagan" and "Christian" Marriage: The State of the Question Which is a very weird thing today. And to be quite honest, I'd never studied the ancient Greeks in Spain. According to Muraresku, this work, which "presents the pagan continuity hypothesis with a psychedelic twist," addresses two fundamental questions: "Before the rise of Christianity, did the Ancient Greeks consume a secret psychedelic sacrament during their most famous and well-attended religious rituals? That's because Brian and I have become friends these past several months, and I'll have more to say about that in a moment.