For a time, manysuspected Froon and Kremers never got lost on the mountain, but wereinstead victims of a crime in town; this later proved false. The point is that all of this case was poorly handled by the authorities. Given thetimeline, authorities assumedat least one of the womenwas alive at thetime, five days into the search. But in a country of just 300,000 people, how much tourism is too much? People in developed countries often have a more ideal view of what a pet represents. So, when locals look at you sideways as they glance, glare, or even stare at your shorts and sandals, do not be offended or surprised. The backpack contained sunglasses, a camera, two cell phones,money,two bras, Froon's passport, and a water bottle. Returning the phones + money immediately made it look like they werent attacked for robbery. The photos give the appearance that they are PROMPTED to go ahead by someone. Brought to trial and prosecuted successfully: highly unlikely, less than 1%. This was incredibly naive but then they only just arrived.. What took them past the divide? Ive just watched a video on YouTube.. An unusual one.. A psychic reading actually.. I think that this is a photoshopped image made by cutting out a picture of Kris and pasting it onto a background to give the false impression that Kris and Lisanne went on the Pianista Trail. Thanks for all you are doing Chris. If you read the article linked, its not even an indigenous tribe. Heres more info: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/12/09/research-team-update-join-us/. Why no more fotos were taken after 508 on the 1st until the nighttime session on the 7/8th? Perhaps someone has just hit Kris on the right side of her head and she is putting her hand up to where it hurts. Gary, great work on noticing things in such detail. God only knows how many people theyve done this to in the last decade. Kriss in the photo is just watching her step. It is cooler at those altitudes but also inside the forest it will be more humid. In this photo is another object (or two? Kris en esta foto, tiene sus manos atrs, que podran estar atadas o esposadas .
Or if they went, they could have been followed by someone the murderer (or murderers). Froon and Kremers were both in their early 20s; they traveled to Panama to work with children. The theory of being lost is so plausible in a Jungle but then the photos .. the speculation can never end. Local authorities dont often feel a sense of responsibility to victims and their families. Jalisco authorities have launched an investigation in connection with the enforced disappearance of four tourists. A Panamanian search and rescue team helped recover the bodies after more than 690 hours of searching, authorities said. After the backpack was found the family got to see the pictures and the case was ruled an accident presumably the 30 or so pics the family didnt release showed the girls in bad shape,, the case went from foul play to accident after the pics were seen.. the pic of the girls hair was put on internet by her brother or something like that and was quickly photoshopped , the wound and eye were concealed. The roof or cover is not substantial enough to keep out rain but it could work as camouflage from the air. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CJKQMGxJ1Kc/XH7ld3XtSnI/AAAAAAAAjOg/kechIb5Cge8msf5kRVinBCrEjIiBCl7TwCLcBGAs/s1600/7reCdlm.jpg, Actually heres uncompressed upscaled original image (upscaled and color corrected with AI). Snoeren had called West and told her: "With all that Im reading now in the police file, it couldnt be anything else there was a certain sequence and timing to it, that had to be caused by the flash floods, typical to the region and season. If so, it would indicate that she had been kept alive for a few weeks or more. The families of both Froonand Kremers also became concerned when they didn't get a usual check-in call. If their experience was catastrophic that that happened shortly before 16:36 UNLESS both were incapacitated and sense only returned at 16:36. Its part of life in the countryside and small towns. The phones remained active for nearly 10days after the pair went missing. It suggest that this case goes deeper than we imagine. She decided to attempt to reach her friend, or help via phone. Yes, I can see that too Chyna Lee. The following insight will make not make much sense to you if you dont know their story. Might look harmless and untouched which is why she is standing so close but then she is either caught or trapped in a booby trap lol. Please read. I would also like to know the time that photo was taken that day. They couldnt have been that far away from the return trail to Boquette. This basically kills the idea of living in Panama on permanent tourist status. After the alarm was raised on April 2, a search party was sent to look for them but nothing was found until ten weeks later when a local woman who found Froons blue backpack turned it in to authorities. Sue and Dennis Borries are pictured in an undated image. I dont know what Chris means by this, but at first I thought it was a wooden post sticking up from the ground and painted white at the top. There is no question thats what it is. Any idea of the exact location where this picture is taken? They usually drown their victims, hit and run car accidents, or just disappear the victim, etc anything that ensures theres no obvious intent to the police. Wonder if this case has any similarities? Did they lose it right at the start of the hike, but didnt bother to go and look for it? Thanks for your comment. The left-side of her head is not hair or her hand, but just the foliage in the background. What do you think? The critical time is between the last foto and the first SOS call. The ground is littered with leaves, twigs, and stones. While the case has since been declared closed by both the Panamanian and Dutch authorities (who worked on . She also is DEFINITELY looking to the right of the person with the camera (presumably Lisanne). Many hikers from all over the world disappear, fall, or suffer other fatal accidents while traveling - this could've happened to these women as well. How Many Kids Does Linkin Park Have? 2. Ironically enough, several of those men were also murdered shortly after. Hi Tom, I believe you intended to comment above, on @SwordOfGods comment. The rich pay for their own security and the poor resort to vigilantism. I think they were lost. I would think they had to be pretty far into the jungle to have come across that slat roof structure. Most people in Panama dont have the expertise, nor equipment to handle these sophisticated tasks. A well-worn path. Why were they still in the jungle at 4:39 PM when they made their first distress call? Perhaps this was a cave hang-out spot used by local teenagers. Hi Chris thanks for the link to the book. I wonder why the girls didnt do any text messages even if they never got through? She looks as if her hands are above her head in a way someone would have them if a police officer were to tell them to put their hands above their head. Jeroen Jumulet / Stringer / AFP / Getty Images, Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. Please note: Our team is committed to accuracy of information and respecting the privacy of those involved with this disappearance case. Ive been into crime shows lately and my husband says I should be an investigator because Im obsessed. Thats from her palm. . Fact. Blue is an uncommon color in the rainforest for anything of that size. On the far right upper right of the photo. Im very curious what your experience is living in Latin America, because generalizations like your statement are certainly inconsistent with many disappearance stories and law enforcement activity here. Probably something like peanut butter, which is a typical energy-dense low cost food carried by people who are traveling light. The chain of custody is muddy. A desperate search for the students was launched, with rescue workers combing through the jungle and nearby villages. To begin with his suggests either they walked into dense dark forest so there was no foto ops or it stopped being fun and started to become serious so somewhere not far beyond that stream did they met a fateful fork in the path which took them towards oblivion. Visit Panama City Beach officials tell us in 2021, our tourism numbers were up 50% over pre-pandemic numbers. The main/central support bar (branch?) She would probably have gone into what looks like a cave or hut behind her, which may have been a booby trap leading to a long drop either through the floor or at the back of the cave. What I have not found is concrete evidence of where they went. No replies are deleted except in rare cases of spam, inappropriate language/links, or disrespect to another contributor. Its up to the public now the government closed the case 6 years ago. The emergency calls still dont go through. Is it possible that there is a building or some sort of structure behind the vegetation? I feel that unless they do or unless further forensic work has shown something more then, no matter what the experts in survival say, it is still only speculation and not proof. When someone does finally find her, its the last people she would want to be found by. And thinking its more possible that another person with a bleachbath and a Laptop/PC is wandering the jungle in Panama just shows me how little people nowadays know how dangerous the outdoors can be. I no longer believe there was any mirror; What we see is instead is the lid of a soft food container (you can see the food stuck around the edges). This leads me to believe that they were followed by one or more men who made their presence known around that time. I think the most important photos were not the daytime ones; I think the most important photos were some of the legible nighttime ones. For the next four days they travel. Or is it all part of a cover-up? I think that I read somewhere that something blue was found on one of the shoes. The red and black objects look like bolt cutters or tree cutter. However, visitors are still a crucial part of the local economy and the reason the. P.S. Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. Can it explain Lisannes foot that was broken? ): https://ibb.co/nqy80hS If I saw a cow skull hanging in a tree I would get the hell out of there, not pose for a photo. Why go to another country to hike when America and other safer countrys have plenty of hiking places ? Do they know more than we do? If the dog was with them, we cannot know for how long, nor why the dog left the girls. if both then was the other found in their room? Who knows if the girls really went for a walk that day by themselves? If a picture is deleted from a camera, its still possible to retrieve it. The oddest thing about this photo is the look on her face which looks very distorted. Im not expecting any major reveals from Pitti shell probably just reinforce her previous statements with more insights. Everything suggests they had no clue what they were doing when they took the taxi to the start of the trail. Experts proposed several theories about how and why the women took thesephotos. I just realized Blue, the guide dog who often walks hikers up the trail, whose return home without the girls alerted locals they were missing, IS NOT IN ANY OF L & K pictures. Is there somebody behind the insignia? After this, can ANYONE IN THIS WORLD still doubt that this girl WOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN OR PHONED HER MOTHER FOR TWO WEEKS when she also called the police 100 times? The supporting pole is diagonal from upper right to lower middle indicating the path is beginning to head down. Also, aserial killer might have stalkedtheir area at the time. It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32. But someone may not like it, so I hope that you will be very carefull! 24/7 coverage of breaking news and live events. There IS anecdotal info that Lisannes BF made contact with her at 1400 or so on the 1st April but maybe that was Dutch time not Panama time? I dont see any pit. Theres a lot more information needed to make conclusions. In image 505, it is around 4:30 PM on April 1st. No Chris, I assure you, police investigations are routinely botched like this in the third world. However, I cannot say for certain because I do not know why the owner would fabricate this part of the story. Of course, there are always exceptions. As well as lots of other things It shows her right arm more clearly and it looks as though there is something square where you would expect her right elbow to be strange. Easily done, I have done that myself several times. That said, even if there is a structure there, it has been made clear that there are a lot of trails on the other side of the El Mirador that are used by the indigenes, so it wouldnt be surprising to see indications of these areas being used. Photo #509 was permanently deleted which takes advanced technical knowledge, plus a computer. I prefer to think that the two girls had some sort of accident, still horrific but better than being murdered. I think Juantarctica made a compelling case on YouTube for this theory. Something happened between the morning and afternoon of the 5th because it was in the afternoon that a wrong pin was entered and subsequently every time thereafter. Its interesting to hear that you are considering putting together a research team to visit Panama and further investigate the details of the case interviews, videos, mapping terrain, etc. Since they were two young women from Europe, I can easily see the possibility that they offended the wrong man. This case certainly is perplexing, as many of the disappearances Ive written about. For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/, The girls saved up for six months for the trip to Panama, One of the last pictures taken on a camera belonging to one of the girls, The contents of a backpack found near a river and handed in by a local woman, A foot was found still inside a boot two months after the girls vanished, Photos released from the camera showed some of the girl's belongings scattered around the rocks, And one image appears to show the back of Kris's head - possibly with blood around the bottom of her hair, Chilling photos found on missing hikers camera show mysterious final moments before girls vanished in Panama jungle, Headteacher sacked 'after sending parents a list of striking teachers' as school launches probe, Isle of Innisfree ferry: Blaze breaks out on boat carrying 183 people in English Channel as lifeboats scramble to scene. Therefore we cannot conclude that a dog was even with them. In a chilling discovery, 90 photos had been snapped on the camera deep in the jungle in the dead of night on April 8 between 1am and 4am - raising questions about who took the pictures. In fact, Im almost certain of it. I wish we had the answers to your questions. Perhaps the women were lured there to be shown something. I think this photo in particular is odd. Sometimes that is all that is found. They showed an incredibly brave independence which was repaid with murder. I think the left arm is visible behind her hanging down. Much information is second hand. As we all know, hitting delete never actually deletes files therefore overwriting the files is the only effective method to cleaning old data. I have seen comment to suggest that they could have made the trip to the divide returned and then gone to another place but then why no more fotos on either phone or camera? It would be like a marker for anyone to see. Lets try one more time then (and please dont censor this, even if you think that it is not pretty murders rarely are! So this sparked my curiosity.
Bizarre Stories About Tourists Who Went Missing Far From Home Also, I do not know about the girls living situation and the relationship between the girls and the owner. Thats just shadow that the camera didnt illuminate.