Eddie can still see through your disguise, but there's a delay between the time where he first spots you and when he aggros. Activate the self-destruct sequence of the Hidden Valley bunker (-100). Appearances It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. Even if the player character's reputation is neutral, if they have sided with the. Joe Cobb): Some will make certain people hate you, and some will allow certain people to trust you. Is this how it should be? You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. The actual quest to take back the NCRCF is buried within the quests to help the Powder Gangers. Similarly, above the door of cell block A, a sign reads "cell block A J. [4], Before the Great War, the NCR Correctional Facility was the Jean Conservancy, a low-security all-female state prison.
Fallout: New Vegas / Funny - TV Tropes I've done the goodsprings side many times and still did powder gangers quests and walked freely through their territory. What's the point of being fanatical about something that's overall trivial if the attitude is going to be "Y'know, you should be as obsessive as I am as well as know and remember everything I do."
Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? - Fallout: New Vegas - GameFAQs But if you help Good Springs you get a handful of caps and well nothing else except now you have to battle your way everywhere since the Powder Gangers hate you and for what?
Ways to get fame for Powder Gangers and Legion - Fallout: New Vegas There are mods who bring back that cut content and it involves Meyers giving a speech to some previous Powder Gangers who help him defending Primm and bringing back the law. or having Idolized reputation), they will never become friendly to the Courier again. Reputation will probably have reset from neutral to the proper standing. Let or help the NCR wipe out the Great Khans without persuading them to release the hostages first (+4). I do like the lore of the powder gangers a lot more than goodsprings. In the table below, these are colored green, black, and red respectively. You've actually got to betray them to get that outcome. One of the many mining car collections found in the facility, State prison sign before the turn off to the NCRCF. Reputation is specific to a certain group/location and is measured in both fame and infamy; you'll usually gain infamy if someone notices you committing a crime. 5.
yes, he won the lottery : r/falloutnewvegas NCR Correctional Facility In both of these cases, the entrance remains locked from the inside, however. Since he is not part of the Powder Ganger faction, he will not attack even if the Powder Gangers in the room become hostile. There seems to be a lot of Powder Ganger questions today. Anyone know if this is supposed to happen or does it depend on how many Powder Gangers you yourself actually kill during the quest? make sure you get the booted quest that that will change your reputation to mercifull thug (dunno if they will stop attacking you tho). Wear the Powder Ganger armor. taking the prison for the NCR or holding the prison for the Powder Gangers. Compatibility Eddie, the leader of the remaining Powder Gangers, has set up his headquarters in the administration building. Maybe if they hadn't bothered to design the Prison Uniforms or hand place a bunch of empty whiskey bottles around the NCRCF facility they could have deleted the little part in the file that makes ash piles never go away, or they could have improved pathfinding for companions. There are two things to keep track of: karma and reputation. Reply. New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility.
-Completed "Booted" by saving the hostages from the Legion.
Ghoul Femgangers at Fallout New Vegas - mods and community Support items like the NCR Emergency Radio will also become useless, and faction privileges like the McCarran monorail will be lost. Since there really isn't anything left to do there after the battle, it couldn't hurt. Just before you enter the room with Eddie, take a hit of Turbo and try to beeline to Eddie spamming the talk button while doing that. So I became Shunned to the NCR and expected that the next time I ran into one of them I would immediately be attacked, but to my surprise I wasnt. Even if you earn rep they'll permanently hate you and shoot you on sight. I say steal the key from the door guard, run in wearing the disguise, and then try to talk to Eddie about doing the quest. ? Cell block A contains two Powder Gangers and a few locked containers of explosives and uniforms.
NCR Correctional Facility | Fallout Wiki | Fandom For example, if killing a Powder Ganger while wearing a uniform of theirs, it might reset all faction reputations. I thought being "shunned" toward a faction would result in them attacking me on site? Kill every Ganger in the main building apart from Eddie, leave the building and wait a day, come back with a powder ganger outfit, sneak until you're just outside the office, then stop sneaking and run to talk with him.
Technical [Non-game 1][7][Non-game 2]. Map What is the advantage of helping Good Springs? I did the mission in the first town where you kill all the powder gangers, not realizing that it would have repercussions, and now I'm vilified by the gang.
Don't join the powder gangers : Fallout: New Vegas The only way to save Goodsprings and still be able to walk into the NCRCF is to never take part in the fight, let the townsfolk kill all gang members. Refusing to participate in this quest, as long as it is done politely, will still earn Fame, albeit much less (+1). The reputations are listed below in alphabetic order.
Powder Ganger - The Vault Fallout Wiki - Fandom NCRCF (exterior)NCRPrisonAdministrationNCRPrisonBlockANCRPrisonBlockBNCRPrisonVisitorsCenter Thanks mate. Shunned basically means they don't want anything to do with you, but not more than that. (Really early spoilers, I guess? If you join them it is either an early grave, or hatred by everyone (bye bye Vegas!) Through the back door of the visitor's center, the player character can enter the main prison yard. It is affected by positive and negative deeds that affect the faction in question, such as completing quests or killing members, respectively. It is also possible to position the player character on the cliff at the southeast side of the facility and perform a running jump over the fence to avoid the entrance fee. I Fought the LawMy Kind of TownEddie's Emissary The leader of the local Powder Gangers, Eddie, will be killed if one sides with the NCR or can be saved if they help the Powder Gangers. Understaffed. Though not active in game, it is included for the sake of completeness. Powder Gangers are not good guys, you get good karma for killing them so why if you are playing a good character are you bothered that they don't like you? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Fallout: New Vegas location Once the dialogue is complete, check the Pip-Boy. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. I tend to have the same problem with the Legion as well. If you manage to have the Goodsprings NPCs deliver the killing blows on the Powder Gangers during the shootout then you'll only end up being Shunned. If any neutral (black in table above), but at least one instance of positive reputation had been gained, or better, Additionally, one can be granted access to the. Press J to jump to the feed. There are very few ways but here a re a couple off the top of my head.
IS there a way to stop beig vilified from the powder gangers : Fallout Leaders Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. You can get infamy with the Powder Gangers, and if have a mod that fixes the bug where the Powder Gangers faction wasn't given evil karma, you can steal from them without a karma penalty. I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. You keep the Trudy, the bartender, and Doc Mitchell alive, so thats a plus. I reloaded my last save which I made 2 hours ago :(.
You see, Joe Cobb is part of a larger chain-gang called "Powder Gangers" and has a smaller gang ready to attack the town of Goodsprings. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. My game is unlucky enough to be severely bugged when it comes to the Powder Gangers so Im real weary now when it comes to something to do with my reputation in game. I can't remember if Shunned reputation is enough to actually trigger a faction hostile-on-sight, though. Wed May 02, 2012 6:08 pm.
r/Fallout - Fallout New Vegas: I killed every powderganger in their Powder Gangers are members of the Powder Gangers living in the Mojave Wasteland in Fallout: New Vegas . Similar to this, one can "sit" in one of the outhouses in the southwest corner from outside the fence, effectively teleporting them inside the facility. I know there are missions you can get from them at the NCRCF, but I get shot on site. Negative reputation for all towns and factions, For an overview of the game mechanic across titles, see. The jail was understaffed.
The powder gangers seem incomplete :: Fallout: New Vegas General Chet can actually store some good crafting parts, some rarer mods, and for some reason I often see him keeping around a bunch of Caravan cards. The Powder Gangers (also referred to as Powder Gangsters by Johnson Nash) are a gang of escaped prisoners operating in the Mojave Wasteland in 2281 . gamespot.comgiantbomb.commetacritic.comfandom.comfanatical.com, Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReportAd. There is no real way to fix this on consoles, apart from either restarting or reloading an earlier save, confirmed to happen on both casual and hardcore play modes. Five of the six towers have Powder Gangers posted at the top, and each contains minor stealable loot, consisting of mostly ammunition and healing items. ", Fast traveling to this location can result in a group of wild dogs spawning and attacking if the Courier does not have the. Well join the Powder Gangers. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. *shrugs*. However, Carter and the Powder Ganger bodyguards in the warden's office will still be hostile. This may only happen when wiping out the location without help from the NCR.
I Fought the Law | Fallout Wiki | Fandom Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. You Have Been Warned. How do I get to the Boomers without being blown up? There are upwards of 40 empty whiskey bottles lying around in the prison yard. Even if the player character is idolized by the Boomers, the doctor will not provide them any medical attention, saying that he needs any supplies left to treat the wounded. But their mines are good tho. Circumstances, but circumstances can change. Speak to Julie again about donating a certain chem after at least nine doses have been donated, resulting in her mentioning that they now have a surplus of that chem, regardless of whether more is then given, as the dialogue itself is what triggers the Fame boost (+2, maximum of +6, once all three chems are in surplus). If that doesn't work, I do ghost town gunfight after the NCRCF. If you complete Ghost Town Gunfight without personally killing Joe Cobb, I believe the reputation hit is mild enough not to turn the NCRCF permanently hostile. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. He can unlock the door for a price of 100 caps. I recently started playing new vegas(my first fallout game) and I had no idea that karma gets you shunned so I just stole most things. Krystal Wilson. Dynamite is only good with perk but for my, I prefer frag or plasma grenades. I recently started a new play through of Fallout New Vegas, and i wanted to do some of the powder gangers quests because i had never done them before.
Ghost Town Gunfight | Fallout Wiki | Fandom They do shot you on sight because they are powder gangers. Exterior By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. There are two cellblocks located within the courtyard. NCR Correctional Facility appears only inFallout: New Vegas. If any neutral (black in table above), but positive reputation holds the majority, followed by a 50, If any neutral (black in table above), but positive reputation holds the majority, the Legion will also provide various items within supply boxes outside of. Wearing faction armor can be used to kill members of an opposing faction without gaining Infamy with that faction. Unless this was patched in, then no. If you manage to kill somebody while sneaking, your relation do not suffer. Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. So I am now more or less around Novac, the NCR has been put to the task of keeping Primm in check and I have unfortunately missed out on going to the NCRCF before handling the Powder Gangers at Goodsprings. This happened to me when I was vilified. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. Securitron J7-82463 here, under the direct authority of New Vegas' sole proprietor, Robert Edwin House.
Powder Ganger Reputation Workaround - Nexus Mods :: Fallout New Vegas I have no idea if that works, though. A workbench can be found near the door along with an owned crate of explosives. NVCE changes their appearance.
Only "Shunned" by Powder Gangers after Ghost Town Gunfight :: Fallout Blew up the monorail and succeeded in framing a scapegoat to secure Ronald Curtis' cover (+12). But, you loose a lot of rep with them if siding with Goodsprings. Just run away if you happen to get in to the fight with them. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! How do I do that? When I want to play with the Powder Gangers, I just skip the Good springs confrontation altogether. and our [Non-game 1][7], Under the lead of Samuel Cooke, a small group of inmates gathered weapons and explosives before rebelling against the NCR staffing the facility. As a Moments subpage, all spoilers are unmarked as per policy. Doctors Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. IS there a way to stop beig vilified from the powder gangers. I don't think that "Shunned" is enough for them to attack on sight. No I did not know, I don't spend my time looking through ALL of the mods. They only have 2 quests to gain relation with them and if you side with Goodsprings it's really hard to even do the second one (not that doing it would make them hate you much less). Successfully assisted Hardin in replacing Elder McNamara as Elder of the Mojave Brotherhood of Steel with himself, and therefore did not assist McNamara in his own tasks (+4). Even after siding with the NCR and retaking the prison, the alarm will continue to sound. Even if they are hostile to you. You need to do both quests for them in order to even get a liked reputation and on the way to the prison you can't even kill the ones that attack you or you lose reputation. Unlike factions, they cannot alter a town's reputation with faction armor. The dialogue option to report dropping the radioactive waste will override the first and Astor will act as if the radioactive waste was dropped while the Legion was still present.). Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:58 pm. You could try wearing a Powder Ganger outfit, sneaking into the building Eddie is in and using a Stealth Boy (the bodyguards and Eddie see through the disguise). The elite society only accepts the finest candidates. IMO the best good guy plan is to not finish Ghost Town Gunfight until you do I Fought the Law.
By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. All rights reserved. Choosing to spread the new power equally across the entire Vegas grid (+12). Posts: 3446. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt decently before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+4). You can always try to wear a PG outfit and sneak in that way to the prison and talk to the leader in the Admin building. That said, the mod can still be started and finished if installed on an ongoing playthrough, with a minor hiccup if the player has already wiped out NCRCF. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries.
Any way to increase rep with Powder Gangers? : r/fnv - reddit Are there anyways i can earn fame with the powder gangers? But it is a difficult quest for low level characters. The community on the outskirts of the Strip has its own code, accepting to those that help, and shunning to those that do not. Valve Corporation. Normal jumpsuit worn with scavenged clothing and equipment from the unfortunate travelers who came across our dear friends at the correctional facility. In other words, while it is possible to move from 'Hated' to 'Sneering Punk', then 'Unpredictable', then 'Dark Hero' by doing more and more good deeds while avoiding bad ones, there is no permanent way to move from 'Hated' back to 'Neutral' or from 'Hated' to 'Idolized.' Info A locked cell contains his "stash," consisting of bottle caps in an ammo container. Unless this was patched in, then no. NCR Correctional Facility Fame/Infamy are tracked independently of each other. The facility is also under observation from the. Its a bit more nuanced than that but basically if you shot them you're done, if you didn't you can bring it back. Mister Holdout will sell weapons to the player character at an inflated price. Each action that gains Fame or Infamy is assigned a set value in the editor, which is added via script: Fame and Infamy (denoted 1 and 0 in the console) are earned by doing helpful or harmful deeds, respectively, to the faction. Specific consequences of reputation within towns include: Scripted instances of town Infamy include: Impressing the reclusive gun-toting tribe is an art. Not all convicts are evil and malicious they just happen to be on the wrong side of the law, misguidance or they were setup and or given an unfair trial by corrupt and or incompetent governing. I need to stop beng vilified with the powder gangers so I can retake the prision.
NCRCF options after being vilified by Powder Gangers : r/fnv - reddit But yeah, doing Eddie's quests while Shunned will net you fame, but no upgrade in rank. Two additional entrances are opened during the New California Republic assault at the end of the Powder Gangers' questline. 1K. Fallout: New Vegas. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt fully before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+12). Telling Marjorie that the player "eat[s] people, too" (-1). The NCR is an equal opportunities employer. As if there's anything in this game that's not incomplete. Siding with the Powder Gangers in Goodsprings will get you Shunned by the NCR. Fallout: New Vegas.
Shunned with NCR but they still dont attack me? - New Vegas Discussion Terminals Unlike other mods that add in new races or genders to the Powder Gangers, this mod comes with fully voiced dialogue for these Femgangers that not only reacts to nearby events occurring, such as a named Ganger dying or Quarry Junction being cleared out or Hidden Valley blowing up, but also sound right at home with a criminal. But I do like betraying the PGs and assaulting the prison in that one quest though. Side with powder ganger for profit ?it's nope for me tho. Both Jacob Hoff and Bill Ronte were successfully cured of, or convinced to seek help for, their additions (+12). MetalGearGekko 11 years ago #1. Eddie dies under any circumstance, which will happen as part of the, The only exception to this is if Eddie dies during the NCR attack on the, Turning in Vault suits as part of the quest, The skill check required to do this can be bypassed by never mentioning that the White Glove Society was behind, Complete Beyond The Beef by either failing to convince, or encouraging, Heck Gunderson's proposed embargo of his meat products for the Strip after he learns that the White Glove Society was behind his. A negative reputation may result in negative attitudes by the citizens and higher prices when trading. and they're playing poker! Link: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/I_Fought_the_LawFallout New Vegas I Fought the Law (Powder Ganger) Quest Walkthrough Merchants If you managed to get yourself vilified, you out of luck. Bribe him with powder ganger disguise on you. Or would I just have to wait until later and take care of it by myself? Both types of reputation are tracked separately, the combination of which determines one's reputation with any given faction. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was not rebuilt before agreeing to stage the attack on. All of these will be compatible with this mod. Try it, its a broken quest btw even if you complete it and kill eddie at the last quest thingy "i fought the law" the quest will stay unresolved.. meyers will bug out and the radio message will say you failed :\. The legion definitely has some bug, i always treated them like varmint shooting them whenever i saw them in my first game and they still talked to me and remained calm. For example, if the player character wears Legion armor and kills an NCR soldier, Infamy will be gained, but will be reset to one's prior reputation upon the removal of the disguise.
What happened was is I sided with good springs at the beginning and killed all the other guys, then after being vilified I used console commands to set my rep with them to neutral and when that didn't work, idolized. Accessing the "Squad Readiness Reports Terminal" on the front desk in the. Everytime I've done this quest (quite a few times) I've always ended up "Vilified" with the Power Gangers, but in my current play through I've only become "Shunned." 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. Seems like it would make more sense if it could have been negotiated with NCR to let Meyers be the sheriff then Meyers could deputize the other Neutral Powder gangers as his police force. Still, the bug you're talking about does exist. Huh.
Khans value strength, determination, and resilience. I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. Powder Ganger Simple: A simple t-shirt and jumpsuit combo. He is not a Powder Ganger and says he is only staying there to serve out his sentence out of respect to the NCR. Once a high-security prison of the Republic, the facility became a fortified stronghold of the Powder Gangers, monitored by Brotherhood and NCR scouts alike. Get enough of it and they'll start to attack on sight, but wearing faction-armour will disguise you (just be aware some NPCs can see through it). Carter Several Powder Gangers mill about the yard, and several are posted at the tops of the towers. Working on the Chain Gang is a Powder Ganger-centric quest mod designed to begin in the early game, when the player is being introduced to the chain gang, and ends in the midgame.
One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both Legion and NCR soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of abandonment and suffering have united both in a combined hatred. They tell me to get lost most of the time, but if being vilified by NCR meant attacked on sight, you pretty much would have to stay away from civilization altogether. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. In cell block B, the Courier can find Carter, a small-time trader, who has set up shop in the cell block. To not get vilified, do not kill every powderganger you encounter. Fame is positive and Infamy is negative. During the same scenario as above, it is confirmed that he will propose a truce, in which the player character stays away from the gang outposts and the gang leaves them alone. If the player character fast-travels away from a location where/when they are normally expected to receive scripted Fame or Infamy before the notification pops up (e.g. Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: Nexus Mods. Then complete quests and earn Fame which will increase from neutral and go up, but only so long as one is wearing that faction's armor. I did several quests with the gangers which all granted rep and then reset my rep to that same nonexistent statelost my access to powder and dynamite for not being a "good boy" despite not attacking any ganger..even those who shot at meThe longer I play this the more Im thinking the boys at Bethesda shoulda put ina few more hours. This was changed in the December 14, 2010 update. Helping them is way better than help good springs. I am Villified, but no matter how many of them I kill they only stay hostile so long as I'm in combat with them. This tip can be useful however if one needs to gain access to the NCR Ranger safe house or to use the monorail, or for additional help during the. That way you keep the bonuses of both, more or less.
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